Police Commissioner Katarina Carroll gives evidence at the Independent Commission of Inquiry into QPS Responses to Domestic and Family Violence.

Police Commissioner Katarina Carroll gives evidence at the Independent Commission of Inquiry into QPS Responses to Domestic and Family Violence.

Carroll answered:“That’s definitely what it implies...it’s deeply disrespectful and it is misogynistic.”

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O’Gorman said some members of the conference got up and left following the comment.

A deputy commissioner also made a speech at another conference in April,where he referred to his friend as a “vagina whisperer”,the inquiry heard.

Carroll said she wanted to give context to that comment,adding the deputy commissioner’s friend “was a gynaecologist,an obstetrician and a world expert in dealing with these issues,particularly in Africa”.

“I don’t know how it was mentioned in the speech,but the person is a friend of the deputy,and he himself,and I believe the circles he operates in,call him that. That’s the context of what the conversation was.”

In her statement to the inquiry,Carroll conceded evidence and witness testimonies suggested there was a culture of misogyny,sexism and racism in the QPS,but did not accept it was “widespread”.

Inquiry commissioner Deborah Richards asked Carroll whether officers who breach domestic violence orders should remain within the QPS.

Carroll said the “black and white answer” would be no,but those cases were extraordinarily complex matters.

When pushed further,Carroll said officers should be abiding by the law.

The inquiry has so far heard from Assistant Commissioner Brian Codd,the head of the domestic violence command,and a range of constables and senior constables,who have detailedsystemic cultural issues.

O’Gorman said the commission had concerns after Codd’s evidence,which included his not being aware of a“disturbing” report into police responses to domestic violence.

Carroll told the inquiry she had initially declined to give evidence at the commission,which has been running for five weeks.

She was then informed by the commission days after she declined that she was “required” to give evidence,and was asked whether she needed a “summons issued”.

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She was grilled over whether she had asked for further resources for the domestic violence unit that was set up after the death ofDoreen Langham in February 2021.

O’Gorman suggested not much had changed in the unit since it was established. Carroll said the QPS had requested further resources from Queensland Treasury.

When O’Gorman suggested some police districts were “crying out for resources”,Carroll said she would “have to agree with that”.

O’Gorman told the inquiry the QPS media and public relations team had 38 employees,11 more people than what had been allocated to the strategy team working on the service’s response to domestic and family violence.

The inquiry also heard a report about members of motorcycle gangs perpetrating domestic violence had not made it to Codd’s domestic violence command.

Towards the end of her testimony,Carroll admitted there were issues within the QPS,and said she would make further enquiries regarding the evidence raised in the inquiry.

She welcomed an independent inquiry to come back in a couple of years time to assess the QPS again,saying reforms were about 18 months behind where she wanted them to be.

“I’m committed to reform. I’ve done it before,” she said.

Outside court,Carroll said she was “sick,disappointed,and upset” about the evidence in the inquiry.

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