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The boy’s parents leave Parramatta Children’s Court on Thursday after their son was refused bail on a terror charge.

The 15-year-old boy was charged on Friday with conspiring to prepare or plan a terrorist act after the Joint Counter-terrorism Team raided properties across Sydney on April 24.

At Parramatta Children’s Court on Thursday,magistrate James Viney denied bail for the boy because of an “unacceptable risk for the protection of the community”,and as the defence had not established exceptional circumstances for his release.

Viney said the risk arose from the boy’s alleged “explicit threats to stab either Jewish or Assyrian people”. The magistrate also highlighted the boy had been charged with multiple offences including assault and having a knife after an incident at a Lurnea bottle shop on April 22 when he allegedly threw a plank of wood.

The boy’s lawyers had proposed a number of bail conditions including a $1.5 million surety,wearing an ankle bracelet and home detention.

Viney said the boy’s young age and a time delay until a potential trial were “very concerning”. He was also critical of the Crown for not being able to provide an estimate of when the brief of evidence would be served on the defence.

The magistrate said the court had “no doubt that the young person’s parents love and support him”,acknowledging their presence in court during Wednesday’s hearing and Thursday’s decision,and that they had appeared “genuinely shocked” by the charge against their son.

Asked outside court about the bail refusal,defence lawyer Ahmed Dib said the loving family was “obviously” disappointed,and they would be taking the matter to the NSW Supreme Court.

Police allege the boy was among a group of co-conspirators communicating via encrypted platforms.

The court heard the boy’s mother confiscated his phone after the April 15 church stabbing because his behaviour appeared “heightened”.

The 15-year-old boy’s lawyer Ahmed Dib outside court.Credit:Dion Georgopoulos

The charge against him is focused on messages after the Wakeley incident between April 18 to 24.

The magistrate said the boy was accused of writing,back in January,“about doing an attack” and how his “friends all support it,but I don’t think they would do it”.

The teenager allegedly wrote about wanting to undertake an attack in France. He separately said,“I just got scared because someone I know got the same thing ... they got done 30 years,and they were 14” and “I have so much hatred for these kuffar[non-believers] and I want to do Jihad now”.

The magistrate said:“[The] messages clearly set out the young person wanted to do something catastrophic to Jewish people or Assyrian people,and wanted to do it bad.”

Commonwealth prosecutor Rebekah Rodger previously told the court the boy had referred to the alleged stabber as his “mate” and police found two hand-drawn Islamic State flags in his bedroom.

She said the teenager,on April 18,wrote in a Signal group titled “Plans” about “targeting Jewish people” and non-believers.

She said this was on the same day that two alleged co-conspirators allegedly discussed a “stash house” and getting guns for money,including a “shotty” which prosecutors say meant a shotgun.

Asked by the magistrate whether prosecutors say the exact planned terror act was to stab someone,Rodger said the offence can relate to “generalised planning”,and does not only apply to specific planning for a specific act.

However,Dib had argued there was “no evidence” of substantial planning in the police fact sheet.

The alleged Wakeley church stabber,16,has been charged with committing a terrorist act. The 15-year-old is the youngest of four boys charged with conspiring to engage in any act in preparation for or planning a terrorist act. Two others,aged 14 and 17,are accused of possessing extremist material.

Some of the matters return to court next week,while others are in June. No pleas have been entered.

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